Experimental investigation of high-dimensional quantum key distribution protocols with twisted photons

Frédéric Bouchard, Khabat Heshami, Duncan England, Robert Fickler, Robert W. Boyd, Berthold-Georg Englert, Luis Sanchez-Soto, Ebrahim Karimi

Quantum key distribution is on the verge of real world applications, where perfectly secure information can be distributed among multiple parties. Several quantum cryptographic protocols have been theoretically proposed and independently realized in different experimental conditions. Here, we develop an experimental platform based on high-dimensional orbital angular momentum states of single photons that enables implementation of multiple quantum key distribution protocols with a single experimental apparatus. Our versatile approach allows us to experimentally survey different classes of quantum key distribution techniques, such as the 1984 Bennett & Brassard (BB84), tomographic protocols including the six-state and the Singapore protocol, and to investigate, for the first time, a recently introduced differential phase shift (Chau15) protocol using twisted photons. This enables us to experimentally compare the performance of these techniques and discuss their benefits and deficiencies in terms of noise tolerance in different dimensions.

Tempering Rayleigh’s curse with PSF shaping

Martin Paúr, Bohumil Stoklasa, Jai Grover, Andrej Krzic, Luis Sanchez-Soto, Zdeněk Hradil, Jaroslav Řeháček

It has been argued that, for a spatially invariant imaging system, the information one can gain about the separation of two incoherent point sources decays quadratically to zero with decreasing separation. The effect is termed Rayleighx2019;s curse. Contrary to this belief, we identify a class of point-spread functions (PSFs) with a linear information decrease. Moreover, we show that any well-behaved symmetric PSF can be converted into such a form with a simple nonabsorbing signum filter. We experimentally demonstrate significant superresolution capabilities based on this idea.

Optimal measurements for quantum spatial superresolution

J. Rehacek, Z. Hradil, D. Koutny, J. Grover, A. Krzic, Luis Sanchez-Soto

We construct optimal measurements, achieving the ultimate precision predicted by quantum theory, for the simultaneous estimation of centroid, separation, and relative intensities of two incoherent point sources using a linear optical system. We discuss the physical feasibility of the scheme, which could pave the way for future practical implementations of quantum-inspired imaging.

Testing for entanglement with periodic coarse-graining

Daniel S. Tasca, Łukasz Rudnicki, Reuben S. Aspden, Miles J. Padgett, Paulo H. Souto Ribeiro, Stephen P. Walborn

Continuous variables systems find valuable applications in quantum information processing. To deal with an infinite-dimensional Hilbert space, one in general has to handle large numbers of discretized measurements in tasks such as entanglement detection. Here we employ the continuous transverse spatial variables of photon pairs to experimentally demonstrate novel entanglement criteria based on a periodic structure of coarse-grained measurements. The periodization of the measurements allows for an efficient evaluation of entanglement using spatial masks acting as mode analyzers over the entire transverse field distribution of the photons and without the need to reconstruct the probability densities of the conjugate continuous variables. Our experimental results demonstrate the utility of the derived criteria with a success rate in entanglement detection of $\sim60\%$ relative to $7344$ studied cases.

Residual and Destroyed Accessible Information after Measurements

Rui Han, Gerd Leuchs, Markus Grassl

When quantum states are used to send classical information, the receiver performs a measurement on the signal states. The amount of information extracted is often not optimal due to the receiver’s measurement scheme and experimental apparatus. For quantum nondemolition measurements, there is potentially some residual information in the postmeasurement state, while part of the information has been extracted and the rest is destroyed. Here, we propose a framework to characterize a quantum measurement by how much information it extracts and destroys, and how much information it leaves in the residual postmeasurement state. The concept is illustrated for several receivers discriminating coherent states.

Polarimetric purity and the concept of degree of polarization

José J. Gil, Andreas Norrman, Ari T. Friberg, Tero Setälä

The concept of degree of polarization for electromagnetic waves, in its general three-dimensional version, is revisited in the light of the implications of the recent findings on the structure of polarimetric purity and of the existence of nonregular states of polarization [J. J. Gil et al., Phys Rev. A 95, 053856 (2017)]. From the analysis of the characteristic decomposition of a polarization matrix R into an incoherent convex combination of (1) a pure state Rp, (2) a middle state Rm given by an equiprobable mixture of two eigenstates of R, and (3) a fully unpolarized state Ru−3D, it is found that, in general, Rm exhibits nonzero circular and linear degrees of polarization. Therefore, the degrees of linear and circular polarization of R cannot always be assigned to the single totally polarized component Rp. It is shown that the parameter P3D proposed formerly by Samson [J. C. Samson, Geophys. J. R. Astron. Soc. 34, 403 (1973)] takes into account, in a proper and objective form, all the contributions to polarimetric purity, namely, the contributions to the linear and circular degrees of polarization of R as well as to the stability of the plane containing its polarization ellipse. Consequently, P3D constitutes a natural representative of the degree of polarimetric purity. Some implications for the common convention for the concept of two-dimensional degree of polarization are also analyzed and discussed.

Uncertainty-reality complementarity and entropic uncertainty relations

Łukasz Rudnicki

Reality of quantum observables, a feature of long-standing interest within foundations of quantum mechanics, has recently been quantified and deeply studied by means of entropic measures (Dieguez and Angelo 2018 Phys. Rev. A 97 022107). However, there is no state-independent 'reality trade-off' between non-commuting observables, as in certain systems all observables are real (Bilobran and Angelo 2015 Europhys. Lett. 112 40005). We show that the entropic uncertainty relation in the presence of quantum memory (Berta et al 2010 Nat. Phys. 6 659) perfectly supplements the discussed notion of reality, rendering trade-offs between reality and quantum uncertainty. State-independent complementarity inequalities involving entropic measures of both, uncertainty and reality, for two observables are presented.

Majorization uncertainty relations for mixed quantum states

Zbigniew Puchała, Łukasz Rudnicki, Aleksandra Krawiec, Karol Życzkowski

Majorization uncertainty relations are generalized for an arbitrary mixed quantum state ρ of a finite size N . In particular, a lower bound for the sum of two entropies characterizing the probability distributions corresponding to measurements with respect to two arbitrary orthogonal bases is derived in terms of the spectrum of ρ and the entries of a unitary matrix U relating both bases. The results obtained can also be formulated for two measurements performed on a single subsystem of a bipartite system described by a pure state, and consequently expressed as an uncertainty relation for the sum of conditional entropies.

Partially coherent axiconic surface plasmon polariton fields

Yahong Chen, Andreas Norrman, Sergey A. Ponomarenko, Ari T. Friberg

We introduce a class of structured polychromatic surface electromagnetic fields, reminiscent of conventional optical axicon fields, through a judicious superposition of partially correlated surface plasmon polaritons. We show that such partially coherent axiconic surface plasmon polariton fields are structurally stable and statistically highly versatile with regard to spectral density, polarization state, energy flow, and degree of coherence. These fields can be created by plasmon coherence engineering and may prove instrumental broadly in surface physics and in various nanophotonics applications.

Nonregularity of three-dimensional polarization states

José J. Gil, Andreas Norrman, Ari T. Friberg, Tero Setälä

Regular states of polarization are defined as those that can be decomposed into a pure state (fully polarized), a two-dimensional (2D) unpolarized state (a state whose polarization ellipse evolves fully randomly in a fixed plane), and a three-dimensional (3D) unpolarized state (a state whose polarization ellipse evolves fully randomly in the 3D space) \[Phys. Rev. A95, 053856 (2017)PLRAAN1050-294710.1103/PhysRevA.95.053856\]. For nonregular states, the middle component can be considered as an equiprobable mixture of two pure states, whose polarization ellipses lie in different planes. In this work, we identify a perfect nonregular state and introduce the degree of nonregularity as a measure of the proximity of a nonregular state to regularity. We also analyze and interpret the notion of polarization-state regularity in terms of polarimetric parameters. Our results bring new insights into the polarimetric structure of 3D light fields.

Fibonacci-Lucas SIC-POVMs

Markus Grassl, Andrew J. Scott

We present a conjectured family of SIC-POVMs which have an additional symmetry group whose size is growing with the dimension. The symmetry group is related to Fibonacci numbers, while the dimension is related to Lucas numbers. The conjecture is supported by exact solutions for dimensions d=4,8,19,48,124,323, as well as a numerical solution for dimension d=844.

Efficient tomography with unknown detectors

L. Motka, M. Paur, J. Rehacek, Z. Hradil, L. L. Sanchez-Soto

We compare the two main techniques used for estimating the state of a physical system from unknown measurements: standard detector tomography and data-pattern tomography. Adopting linear inversion as a fair benchmark, we show that the difference between these two protocols can be traced back to the nonexistence of the reverse-order law for pseudoinverses. We capitalize on this fact to identify regimes where the data-pattern approach outperforms the standard one and vice versa. We corroborate these conclusions with numerical simulations of relevant examples of quantum state tomography.

Temporal and spectral properties of quantum light

B. Stiller, U. Seyfarth, G. Leuchs, C. Fabre, V. Sandoghdar, N. Treps, L.F. Cugliandolo

Codes for Simultaneous Transmission of Quantum and Classical Information

M. Grassl, Sirui Lu, Bei Zeng

We consider the characterization as well as the construction of quantum codes that allow to transmit both quantum and classical information, which we refer to as `hybrid codes'. We construct hybrid codes $[\![n,k{: }m,d]\!]_q$ with length $n$ and distance $d$, that simultaneously transmit $k$ qudits and $m$ symbols from a classical alphabet of size $q$. Many good codes such as $[\![7,1{: }1,3]\!]_2$, $[\![9,2{: }2,3]\!]_2$, $[\![10,3{: }2,3]\!]_2$, $[\![11,4{: }2,3]\!]_2$, $[\![11,1{: }2,4]\!]_2$, $[\![13,1{: }4,4]\!]_2$, $[\![13,1{: }1,5]\!]_2$, $[\![14,1{: }2,5]\!]_2$, $[\![15,1{: }3,5]\!]_2$, $[\![19,9{: }1,4]\!]_2$, $[\![20,9{: }2,4]\!]_2$, $[\![21,9{: }3,4]\!]_2$, $[\![22,9{: }4,4]\!]_2$ have been found. All these codes have better parameters than hybrid codes obtained from the best known stabilizer quantum codes.

Complementarity and Polarization Modulation in Photon Interference

Andreas Norrman, Kasimir Blomstedt, Tero Setala, Ari T. Friberg

We derive two general complementarity relations for the distinguishability and visibility of genuine vector-light quantum fields in double-pinhole photon interference involving polarization modulation. The established framework reveals an intrinsic aspect of wave-particle duality of the photon, not previously reported, thus providing deeper insights into foundational quantum interference physics.

Extracting the physical sector of quantum states

D. Mogilevtsev, Y. S. Teo, J. Rehacek, Z. Hradil, J. Tiedau, R. Kruse, G. Harder, C. Silberhorn, L. L. Sanchez-Soto

The physical nature of any quantum source guarantees the existence of an effective Hilbert space of finite dimension, the physical sector, in which its state is completely characterized with arbitrarily high accuracy. The extraction of this sector is essential for state tomography. We show that the physical sector of a state, defined in some pre-chosen basis, can be systematically retrieved with a procedure using only data collected from a set of commuting quantum measurement outcomes, with no other assumptions about the source. We demonstrate the versatility and efficiency of the physical-sector extraction by applying it to simulated and experimental data for quantum light sources, as well as quantum systems of finite dimensions.

Lempel-Ziv Complexity of Photonic Quasicrystals

Juan J. Monzon, Angel Felipe, Luis L. Sanchez-Soto

The properties of one-dimensional photonic quasicrystals ultimately rely on their nontrivial long-range order, a hallmark that can be quantified in many ways depending on the specific aspects to be studied. Here, we assess the quasicrystal structural features in terms of the Lempel-Ziv complexity. This is an easily calculable quantity that has proven to be useful for describing patterns in a variety of systems. One feature of great practical relevance is that it provides a reliable measure of how hard it is to create the structure. Using the generalized Fibonacci quasicrystals as our thread, we give analytical fitting formulas for the dependence of the optical response with the complexity.

Unraveling beam self-healing

Andrea Aiello, Girish S. Agarwal, Martin Paur, Bohumil Stoklasa, Zdenek Hradil, Jaroslav Rehacek, Pablo de la Hoz, Gerd Leuchs, Luis L. Sanchez-Soto

We show that, contrary to popular belief, diffraction-free beams not only may reconstruct themselves after hitting an opaque obstacle but also, for example, Gaussian beams. We unravel the mathematics and the physics underlying the self-reconstruction mechanism and we provide for a novel definition for the minimum reconstruction distance beyond geometric optics, which is in principle applicable to any optical beam that admits an angular spectrum representation. Moreover, we propose to quantify the self-reconstruction ability of a beam via a newly established degree of self-healing. This is defined via a comparison between the amplitudes, as opposite to intensities, of the original beam and the obstructed one. Such comparison is experimentally accomplished by tailoring an innovative experimental technique based upon Shack-Hartmann wave front reconstruction. We believe that these results can open new avenues in this field. (C) 2017 Optical Society of America

Experimental detection of entanglement polytopes via local filters

Yuan-Yuan Zhao, Markus Grassl, Bei Zeng, Guo-Yong Xiang, Chao Zhang, Chuan-Feng Li, Guang-Can Guo

Quantum entanglement, resulting in correlations between subsystems that are stronger than any possible classical correlation, is one of the mysteries of quantum mechanics. Entanglement cannot be increased by any local operation, and for a sufficiently large many-body quantum system there exist infinitely many different entanglement classes, i. e., states that are not related by stochastic local operations and classical communications. On the other hand, the method of entanglement polytopes results in finitely many coarse-grained types of entanglement that can be detected by only measuring single-particle spectra. We find, however, that with high probability the local spectra lie in more than one polytope, hence providing only partial information about the entanglement type. To overcome this problem, we propose to additionally use so-called local filters, which are non-unitary local operations. We experimentally demonstrate the detection of entanglement polytopes in a four-qubit system. Using local filters we can distinguish the entanglement type of states with the same single particle spectra, but which belong to different polytopes.

Discrete phase-space structures and Wigner functions for N qubits

C. Munoz, A. B. Klimov, L. Sanchez-Soto

We further elaborate on a phase-space picture for a system of N qubits and explore the structures compatible with the notion of unbiasedness. These consist of bundles of discrete curves satisfying certain additional properties and different entanglement properties. We discuss the construction of discrete covariant Wigner functions for these bundles and provide several illuminating examples.

Quantum technology: from research to application

Wolfgang P. Schleich, Kedar S. Ranade, Christian Anton, Markus Arndt, Markus Aspelmeyer, Manfred Bayer, Gunnar Berg, Tommaso Calarco, Harald Fuchs, et al.

The term quantum physics refers to the phenomena and characteristics of atomic and subatomic systems which cannot be explained by classical physics. Quantum physics has had a long tradition in Germany, going back nearly 100 years. Quantum physics is the foundation of many modern technologies. The first generation of quantum technology provides the basis for key areas such as semiconductor and laser technology. The "new" quantum technology, based on influencing individual quantum systems, has been the subject of research for about the last 20 years. Quantum technology has great economic potential due to its extensive research programs conducted in specialized quantum technology centres throughout the world. To be a viable and active participant in the economic potential of this field, the research infrastructure in Germany should be improved to facilitate more investigations in quantum technology research.

The many facets of the Fabry-Perot

Luis L. Sanchez-Soto, Juan J. Monzon, Gerd Leuchs

Codeword Stabilized Quantum Codes for Asymmetric Channels

Tyler Jackson, Markus Grassl, Bei Zeng

Parsing polarization squeezing into Fock layers

Christian R. Mueller, Lars S. Madsen, Andrei B. Klimov, Luis L. Sanchez-Soto, Gerd Leuchs, Christoph Marquardt, Ulrik L. Andersen

We investigate polarization squeezing in squeezed coherent states with varying coherent amplitudes. In contrast to the traditional characterization based on the full Stokes parameters, we experimentally determine the Stokes vector of each excitation subspace separately. Only for states with a fixed photon number do the methods coincide; when the photon number is indefinite, we parse the state in Fock layers, finding that substantially higher squeezing can be observed in some of the single layers. By capitalizing on the properties of the Husimi Q function, we map this notion onto the Poincare space, providing a full account of the measured squeezing.

Applying Grover's Algorithm to AES: Quantum Resource Estimates

Markus Grassl, Brandon Langenberg, Martin Roetteler, Rainer Steinwandt

We present quantum circuits to implement an exhaustive key search for the Advanced Encryption Standard (AES) and analyze the quantum resources required to carry out such an attack. We consider the overall circuit size, the number of qubits, and the circuit depth as measures for the cost of the presented quantum algorithms. Throughout, we focus on Clifford+T gates as the underlying fault-tolerant logical quantum gate set. In particular, for all three variants of AES (key size 128, 192, and 256 bit) that are standardized in FIPS-PUB 197, we establish precise bounds for the number of qubits and the number of elementary logical quantum gates that are needed to implement Grover's quantum algorithm to extract the key from a small number of AES plaintext-ciphertext pairs.

Multimode theory of single-photon subtraction

V. Averchenko, C. Jacquard, V. Thiel, C. Fabre, N. Treps

Achieving the ultimate optical resolution

Martin Paur, Bohumil Stoklasa, Zdenek Hradil, Luis L. Sanchez-Soto, Jaroslav Rehacek

Concatenated Codes for Amplitude Damping

Tyler Jackson, Markus Grassl, Bei Zeng

Implementing a neutral-atom controlled-phase gate with a single Rydberg pulse

Rui Han, Hui Khoon Ng, Berthold-Georg Englert

One can implement fast two-qubit entangling gates by exploiting the Rydberg blockade. Although various theoretical schemes have been proposed, experimenters have not yet been able to demonstrate two-atom gates of high fidelity due to experimental constraints. We propose a novel scheme, which only uses a single Rydberg pulse illuminating both atoms, for the construction of neutral-atom controlled-phase gates. In contrast to the existing schemes, our approach is simpler to implement and requires neither individual addressing of atoms nor adiabatic procedures. With parameters estimated based on actual experimental scenarios, a gate fidelity higher than 0.99 is achievable. Copyright (C) EPLA, 2016

Optical resolution from Fisher information

L. Motka, B. Stoklasa, M. D'Angelo, P. Facchi, A. Garuccio, Z. Hradil, S. Pascazio, F. V. Pepe, Y. S. Teo, et al.

Stars of the quantum Universe: extremal constellations on the Poincare sphere

Gunnar Bjork, Markus Grassl, Pablo de la Hoz, Gerd Leuchs, Luis L. Sanchez-Soto

The characterization of the polarization properties of a quantum state requires the knowledge of the joint probability distribution of the Stokes variables. This amounts to assessing all the moments of these variables, which are aptly encoded in a multipole expansion of the density matrix. The cumulative distribution of these multipoles encapsulates in a handy manner the polarization content of the state. We work out the extremal states for that distribution, finding that SU(2) coherent states are maximal to any order, so they are the most polarized allowed by quantum theory. The converse case of pure states minimizing that distribution, which can be seen as the most quantum ones, is investigated for a diverse range of number of photons. Exploiting the Majorana representation, the problem appears to be closely related to distributing a number of points uniformly over the surface of the Poincare sphere.

Extremal quantum states and their Majorana constellations

G. Bjork, A. B. Klimov, P. de la Hoz, M. Grassl, G. Leuchs, L. L. Sanchez-Soto

The characterization of quantum polarization of light requires knowledge of all the moments of the Stokes variables, which are appropriately encoded in the multipole expansion of the density matrix. We look into the cumulative distribution of those multipoles and work out the corresponding extremal pure states. We find that SU(2) coherent states are maximal to any order whereas the converse case of minimal states (which can be seen as the most quantum ones) is investigated for a diverse range of the number of photons. Taking advantage of the Majorana representation, we recast the problem as that of distributing a number of points uniformly over the surface of the Poincare sphere.

New Constructions of Codes for Asymmetric Channels via Concatenation

Markus Grassl, Peter W. Shor, Graeme Smith, John Smolin, Bei Zeng

We present new constructions of codes for asymmetric channels for both binary and nonbinary alphabets, based on methods of generalized code concatenation. For the binary asymmetric channel, our methods construct nonlinear single-error-correcting codes from ternary outer codes. We show that some of the Varshamov-Tenengol'ts-Constantin-Rao codes, a class of binary nonlinear codes for this channel, have a nice structure when viewed as ternary codes. In many cases, our ternary construction yields even better codes. For the nonbinary asymmetric channel, our methods construct linear codes for many lengths and distances which are superior to the linear codes of the same length capable of correcting the same number of symmetric errors.

Experimental Realization of Quantum Tomography of Photonic Qudits via Symmetric Informationally Complete Positive Operator-Valued Measures

N. Bent, H. Qassim, A. A. Tahir, D. Sych, G. Leuchs, L. L. Sanchez-Soto, E. Karimi, R. W. Boyd

Symmetric informationally complete positive operator-valued measures provide efficient quantum state tomography in any finite dimension. In this work, we implement state tomography using symmetric informationally complete positive operator-valued measures for both pure and mixed photonic qudit states in Hilbert spaces of orbital angular momentum, including spaces whose dimension is not power of a prime. Fidelities of reconstruction within the range of 0.81-0.96 are obtained for both pure and mixed states. These results are relevant to high-dimensional quantum information and computation experiments, especially to those where a complete set of mutually unbiased bases is unknown.

Classical polarization multipoles: paraxial versus nonparaxial

P. de la Hoz, G. Bjork, H. de Guise, A. B. Klimov, G. Leuchs, L. L. Sanchez-Soto

We discuss the polarization of paraxial and nonparaxial classical light fields by resorting to a multipole expansion of the corresponding polarization matrix. It turns out that only a dipolar term contributes when one considers SU(2) (paraxial) or SU(3) (nonparaxial) as fundamental symmetries. In this latter case, one can alternatively expand in SU(2) multipoles, and then both a dipolar and a quadrupolar component contribute, which explains the richer structure of this nonparaxial instance. These multipoles uniquely determine Wigner functions, in terms of which we examine some intriguing hallmarks arising in this classical scenario.

Extremal states for photon number and quadratures as gauges for nonclassicality

Z. Hradil, J. Rehacek, P. de la Hoz, G. Leuchs, L. L. Sanchez-Soto

Rotated quadratures carry the phase-dependent information of the electromagnetic field, so they are somehow conjugate to the photon number. We analyze this noncanonical pair, finding an exact uncertainty relation, as well as a couple of weaker inequalities obtained by relaxing some restrictions of the problem. We also find the intelligent states saturating that relation and complete their characterization by considering extra constraints on the second-order moments of the variables involved. Using these moments, we construct performance measures tailored to diagnose photon-added and Schrodinger-cat-like states, among others.

Least-bias state estimation with incomplete unbiased measurements

Jaroslav Rehacek, Zdenek Hradil, Yong Siah Teo, Luis L. Sanchez-Soto, Hui Khoon Ng, Jing Hao Chai, Berthold-Georg Englert

Measuring incomplete sets of mutually unbiased bases constitutes a sensible approach to the tomography of high-dimensional quantum systems. The unbiased nature of these bases optimizes the uncertainty hypervolume. However, imposing unbiasedness on the probabilities for the unmeasured bases does not generally yield the estimator with the largest von Neumann entropy, a popular figure of merit in this context. Furthermore, this imposition typically leads to mock density matrices that are not even positive definite. This provides a strong argument against perfunctory applications of linear estimation strategies. We propose to use instead the physical state estimators that maximize the Shannon entropy of the unmeasured outcomes, which quantifies our lack of knowledge fittingly and gives physically meaningful statistical predictions.

Practical implementation of mutually unbiased bases using quantum circuits

U. Seyfarth, L. L. Sanchez-Soto, G. Leuchs

The number of measurements necessary to perform the quantum state reconstruction of a system of qubits grows exponentially with the number of constituents, creating a major obstacle for the design of scalable tomographic schemes. We work out a simple and efficient method based on cyclic generation of mutually unbiased bases. The basic generator requires only Hadamard and controlled-phase gates, which are available in most practical realizations of these systems. We show how complete sets of mutually unbiased bases with different entanglement structures can be realized for three and four qubits. We also analyze the quantum circuits implementing the various entanglement classes.

Experimental violation of a Bell-like inequality with optical vortex beams

B. Stoklasa, L. Motka, J. Rehacek, Z. Hradil, L. L. Sanchez-Soto, G. S. Agarwal

Optical beams with topological singularities have a Schmidt decomposition. Hence, they display features typically associated with bipartite quantum systems; in particular, these classical beams can exhibit entanglement. This classical entanglement can be quantified by a Bell inequality formulated in terms of Wigner functions. We experimentally demonstrate the violation of this inequality for Laguerre-Gauss (LG) beams and confirm that the violation increases with increasing orbital angular momentum. Our experimental scheme, which is designed to give directly the parity of the Wigner function, yields negativity at the origin for LG(10) beams, whereas for LG(20) we always get a positive value.